Does the iPhone support Java?
No. The iPhone will not support Java applications of any kind. Steve Jobs has been quoted as saying "Java's not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It's this big heavyweight ball and chain."
We can't disagree with the last part of Jobs' scathing remark, but stating that Java doesn't get used anymore couldn't be farther from the truth - especially in the world of mobile devices.
In any event, the iPhone will not offer Java support.
That is stupid, java is still widely used, even though java as a whole is complete crap, java is still being used, especially by campus websites as well as many sites that have interactive chat interfaces.
can anyone tell me of a good phone that i could use to acccess a java website?
Since most "java websites" use Java in the backend, this would be any phone with a web browser.
Java is not supported, because people can download any existing Java app and can run it for free. FRREEE . which obviously Mr. Jobs don't want.
Anyways, I like to use anything close which restricts me (like I am in Jail) , so I don't use IPhone. so I use freedom phones like Android or Palm Pre. Although i keep Iphone for testing IPhone apps developed by my company..
Not necessarily. If I wanted to design a Java app I could sell it if I felt like it. I don't OWN the Java sdk, but I can certainly sell a Java based app.
He clearly meant java is free as in OSS free not free as in gratis.
Errm, android doesn't support java either..
You are so wrong that it's almost physically painful. Java is the preferred programming language for Android development.
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
I think that he was talking about J2ME and not the preferred programming language. The APKs are built in JAVA, but the .jars apps are not supported in Android Devices (but yes, u can run it with some others apps)
nexus one and evo 4g the software they run on is called froyo 2.2
NOKIA phones, any model that supports WAP/GPRS and/or Wireless.
ya the best phone to support java is Nokia 7610 and LG Qt78 models they are best...plz dont buy apple i phone for this particular java purpose ........y bcz it dos'nt support all version of java......
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Java is often the backend not frontend (GUI), most of commerce applications is either java, .net, c++. Steve Jobs claims that java is not used anymore is not thrue at all.
You are stupid, the whole world runs on Java now. I am an expert Java developer, and can tell you that 90% of the companies I know of use Java.
Well if you are a Lava developer it is likely that you will be in contact with companies who use Java and not the ones who don't need your services :-)
Or, alternately, one could simply look for statistics on the matter:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
http://www.langpop.com/
Sooo - seems to me that the previous comment was more accurate that yours, I'm afraid.
Java is used on the back-end for many large sites, however in the world of commercially available software, it is extremely rare. I urge you to go into a store that sells software in your city and count how many applications were written in Java. I came up with 0.
Of course Java is all powerful.
You are a loser who is not aware of the greatness of Java... and i is not spelled lava...
Go into Android Market..
How about SAP or Oracle support for Java? That's enterprise software that automates whole companies.
At the other end of the spectrum, I urge you to go to a website that sells phone software and see how many games are written in Java.
I work for Ericsson, most of the GUIs of mobile operators' systems we sell are based on Java Swing. These are commercial applications that cost a lot of money.
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Java is unstable crap!
As opposed to those robust "self documenting code" Ruby apps (cough sputter), or those zippy Python apps (gag, hack wheeze), those desktop PHP apps (oh wait, there aren't any, really), or those "Segmentation fault" C/C++ apps. You're obviously indoctrinated, hence your opinion is worth exactly nothing.
And just so we're clear, I'm not a Java evangelist - I use whatever suites the task, be in Ruby, PHP, Java or C/C++.
You're a stupid end user who knows nothing but how to run crappy apple or other sophisticated devices.
Grow up kid.
You may disagree,but I'l tell you one thing. Most of the biggest companies in the world use some IBM software products. And you know the funny thing, it's all Java based.
So you're saying that IBM should rebuild their software brands, then companies should redeploy it. We're talking millions in costs here. Don't think so.
So people working with IBM products will stick to their PC. Apple won't steal Microsoft's market with the iPad, the same way they were not able to do it with the MAC.
Seriously why do you think you know everything. Congratulations on working for a shitty company that develops shitty apps, and gives you your shitty 20k a year for being a piece of shit. Just because you know a shitty language doesn't mean it's the best or that anyone else actually uses the shit. You might as well mix cement for a living. Or work full time at walmart. At least then you would know how much of a failure you are, and we would all be on the same page, finally.
The ONLY thing that is shitty here is your nasty disposition. Show some respect or go back to your cave, you troll.
Your ignorance is mind boggling
Listen you morons who badmouth Java. I've been developing with Java for 12 years, have MS in CS and Sun Certified Programmer and Enterprise Architect. Java is the best language there is for 95% of applications, and if you think otherwise you are either a dilettanti or Steve Jobs.
I have phone that has no java enable. Is there anyways to run the opera mini on my phone?
pls help..thanks..=>
ignorant - you are an ignorant
You're right of course. Apart from a solid but probably declining mass of Microsoft .net apps, the world does us Java, as does open source. Any large shop will use Unix/Linux/Java.
so are they ever going to make java for the ipod touch or iphone? cause i want to play online games and chat and stuff
This is indeed true! Any company that has a completely customized database application uses it. This means having on load form scripts and on user input scripts. Without those, the database isnt much use in saving time and reducing errors. I don't develop for a living but do so for my own company. I am probably going to have to get a compatible portable device for this purpose. I also am going to get the franchisees of my company to use compatible devices for this purpose. It's just a must, as they are young cleaning contractors that are always on the move. It's a huge market and they are only getting younger and more in tune with technology. Does anyone know if ipad has javascript functionality because that would be ideal due to the larger screen?
who are you calling stupid? nobody was agreeing Mr. Job
Leaving fanaticism aside, the fact of the matter is that JAVA is actually the most widely used language. Case closed... Yes Jobs has said this or that. So has Bill Gates, and anyone else considered guru enough, and some of their statements proved to be off at times.
can we develop mobila applications using .net,or java is only way to develop mobile applications
Hey,
Java is used a lot and is really powerful, not to mention is open source. Steve "Blow"Jobs is just taking advantage of the popularity of the IPhone. He wants to promote Objective-C only...Android phones will knock him out soon
Hey, I'm with you.. I'm all for open source and would much rather android overtake the Iphone OS.. But honestly I don't it stands a chance.
Geeks buy things like freedom phones and support open source software. Normal people buy what everyone else is buying or what they think everyone else is buying.. Apple's marketing department is an nigh unstoppable.. Look at any movie made in the last 10 years.. If you see a computer it's going to have that apple on it. If you see an MP3 player, it's going to be an Ipod.. and if you see a phone in any movie made in the last 3 years it's generally going to be an Iphone or a razr..
Apple is a status symbol, that's what most people care about. It's unfortunate, but I doubt even google has the ability to knock apple off it's pedestal now.
guys i love java and recently start working in it...but some people alway say me thats it is not used much you should use csharp and is better than java.pointer are not there in java thats why it can't be used to connect it with hardware.but beside all this i think java is much better because of applets +its working
You grown men are acting like playground children. Believe how you wish and let others do the same. For god sake is there only one correct answer? You have one opinion while someone has another. You guys need to take the adult approach. Would you allow your children to talk to strangers like this? And you call yourselves adults. Ankle biting and name calling shouldn't be part of this discussion.
Oh please, this is BS. Java as whole is crap?? What are you on about? There's a lot more to Java than interactive chat sites and applets. Some of us write actual software as opposed to hacking PHP, Flash, or AJAX and between C/C and Java, you'll have a hard time finding someone who'd tell you Java isn't a superior language. Jobs has made some of the biggest mistakes in the history of computing and been able to survive because he's also made some of the biggest innovations. But leaving developers out of the loop of the iPhone will simply mean more and better software on the clones.
It's all about the all mighty dollars Mr. Jobs. The iphone costs $500.00. I won't give you the mula if there is no java on the iphone. It's just that simple!!!
We develop and distribute java-based applications worldwide and have users in over 200 countries. Emerging markets (and consumers worldwide that do not want or can not afford an iPhone) are buying java-enabled mobile phones. The vast majority of growth in mobile sales is coming from these emerging markets. That leaves much smaller prosumer/enterprise market which is then fragmented amoung Blackberry, the multitude of Smartphones (most support java) and now iPhone. I think Steve Jobs comment certainly put him in the minority.
I think Steve Jobs' comments were more of an excuse than a really valid reason. Any statistics site will show you Java is alive and well. Perhaps some usages of it have tapered off (such as Applets), but it's not dead by any stretch of the imagination.
I think his position was really more of "we want to keep draconian control", and this was his lame justification.
As with a previous poster, my position is "no Java, no sale".
Exactly,
Were not going to enable Java because...erm...erm...it's rubbish, lie, lie, etc Dasterdly laugh, hand rubbing etc.
Actually Steve Job's reason for saying nobody uses Java is purely commercial motivated becos he doesn't want to be controlled by Sun or Adobe/flash. He wants to own the new media generation, he wants his own, just like Microsoft wants the silverlight.
He thinks if he gets critical mass with his devices he will sway pple away from java n flash, much like Microsoft swayed the web to their non standard CSS compliant browsers years ago.
I m a iPhone user n I hate it not able to use flash or java. Damned.
I use logmein.com to take over my pc .. and I am not able to run w/ the iphone. I really hope that they get this figured out.
Just switch in your logmein preferences to use HTML, instead of Java
That exactly worked for me: using Lomein.com to control my PC remotely.
Thanks for the tip!
Roland